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huuummmm.

i suppose that Bottlehead repro might look good on my ATR-102 too. i was thinking about the Aria but that does look very nice.

if you don't mind me asking; how much for the Mike Spitz designed added repro rack mount?

*added note; upon further inspection it appears that the mounting is simply a matter of cutting the proper holes in the steel facia plates. not a job for an amateur but one that someone local could do assuming they had the repro box to use as a guide. Doc, is that something you could arrainge if i removed the facia plates and sent them to you?

it looks like the repro face plate covers the rough edges of the hole and the rack mount screws onto the face of it. it is nice the way they use a thick steel for the facia. these days you would have some flimsy plastic panel and no way would it hold a repro.



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Waltz for Debby / Re: Waltz for Debby TP 008
« on: October 25, 2008, 11:29:58 AM »
Don't say almost 50 years to 1961 . I was born in 1960.
The real shame is seeing the quality of music drop since then.
BTW mikel was is on the wall behind the the TT and R2R?
You are the only person so far I seen with room treatment.


hi Ben,

here is a link to pictures of my room.

http://cgi.audioasylum.com/systems/663.html

the pictures are now out of date as they don't show my RTR decks or my other tt's. if you scroll to the bottom there is a link to an article i wrote about my room construction and the acoustic treatments.

the treatments behind my tt and RTR decks are the built-in side diffusers. i have my three tt's on the left side of my room and the three RTR decks on the right side of my room.

all the room treatment in my room was designed into it.

Doc, you are most welcome anytime. i know you are pretty busy but when it works let me know.

cheers,

mikel

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Waltz for Debby / Re: Waltz for Debby TP 008
« on: October 24, 2008, 10:16:00 PM »

TP008 is an unqualified home run!!!

i'm guessing no one is surprised about that. a first class 15ips master dub of argueably the most popular live Jazz trio album of all time should be outstanding; and it is. i agree with all of Ironbut's comments.

what struck me first was the level of realism from a 47 year old recording. from the very start i was there seated in a stage center table; with Evans piano just to my right up on the stage and LaFaro's bass to my left.....and Motian a bit back and left of center. every tiny nuance was there and the subtlety of everything was spooky. like Ironbut; i had the feeling that this was the complete picture of how it was. i have many Bill Evans recordings. i've never heard the nuance and subtlety of his playing like this. the fingering of the keys was magical. really; the same with LaFaro. it was so intimate feeling i was out of my listening comfort zone and i was trying to get my bearings. it seemed to cross over into really real territory. made the hair stand up and all that. looked over my shoulder a few times.

there was nothing between me and them. no mics or recording chain was evident.

the brush work from Motian had this delicate 3-dimentionality to it and such micro-dynamic life. the whole recording has such an alive level of dynamic realism.....unveiled and natural.

everything had such a natural place in space front to back, side to side, and top to bottom. nothing cookie cutter, just real life in real space. i'm assuming that as close to the original event as this is everything is in perfect phase. just music.

and oh, what music. perfect sound meets inspired playing; with historically great synergy and talent. three guys at their individual musical peaks.



i had intended to write mostly about how this compared to the AP 45rpm Lp reissue.....which was my reference for 'Waltz for Debbie'. i have been eagarly anticipating doing the comparison to see how a 45rpm Lp played on a top level tt compared to 'The Tape Project' 15ips 1/4" version played on a top level RTR deck. but after doing the comparison, it's easy to hear how the tape is better in every way and the 45rpm Lp (as good as it is) is not really close to this level of realism. my focus did change more to just talking about what this tape provides the listener in terms of a game-changing personal musical journey.

some specifics on the 15ips tape/45 rpm comparison.

the most significant thing is the level of clarity. you compare the 45 to the 33 or the SACD and the 45 has clearly better clarity, texture and nuance. the 45 has this wonderful fullness and naturalness. it seems very vivid and alive. then you play the 15ips tape and your jaw drops. suddenly the dirty window has openned and reality appears before you.

and the open window has more than just more detail. it also contains better dynamic contrasts, a much better sense of venue and action in space. the air pressure of the room changes as the whole room becomes energized.

all the rich ambient clinking of the glasses and little noises become much more real, each individual clap in the claping after each cut becomes real and distinct. this is a whole new ball game of 'you are there'.

the 45 and the tape share the spot-on tonality. but you are drawn much more into the intimacy of the music with the tape by the degree shading of that tonality.

this recording is so relaxed and easy to listen to in any format.....which is a good part of it's charm. on the tape it becomes a place you have gone and the world falls away.

TP008 begs to be played on the very best possible RTR player.

congrats to Doc, Paul and Romo for the wonderful job they have done here. WOW and double WOW!

if anyone is even thinking about getting into RTR tapes this would be a great place to start. the best music meets the all time best consumer format.


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General Discussion / Re: Anyone here going to CES/T.H.E Show in January?
« on: October 24, 2008, 07:52:04 PM »
i've been to CES/T.H.E. Show 6 or 7 times...about every other year. it is a dealer/press show and not intended to be a consumer/enthusiast show...although high end audio does attract lots of non-industry types. T.H.E. show has a more relaxed vibe compared to the high end audio CES at the Venetian.

it is quite a bit more serious than RMAF in Denver. many rooms are focused on press and finding new dealers so they don't want to accomodate consumers directly.

i do like that it starts on a Thursday this year so i only need to miss one day of work if i fly down on Thursday night.

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Waltz for Debby / Re: Get ready, Charter members
« on: October 21, 2008, 09:13:23 PM »
OK Steve, i get the hint. i will do my best to post my impressions of each tape on their own thread as time allows. i've listened to parts of all 7 releases on the Studer and they all sound wonderful......remarkable really.


BTW A few of the other release specific forums here are a little,.. thread bare? It's been a little while since Doc started these so I'd like to remind everyone that these are meant to be a resource for subscribers who aren't getting every Tape Project release. If we say a little about each release (mini reviews) than it'll help those folks make decisions about the ones that they want to try. Think of it along the lines of those "owner impressions" that the online cable or gear manufacturers have on their sites. I usually read those when I'm considering buying something I haven't had a chance to listen to. Of course it's best for them to download it but I'm sure you'll agree, that can only give a pale idea of what the tape version will sound like.

Woo Hoo!!!!!
I can't friggin wait!

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Waltz for Debby / Re: Get ready, Charter members
« on: October 21, 2008, 08:57:35 PM »
mine is scheduled for Thursday delivery......i cannot wait to compare TP-008 on the Studer to my 45rpm Lp re-issue on the Rockport. this Lp sounds great and should provide a SOTA Lp reference to measure the tape against.

on Sunday i compared my pristene RR Lp of the Arnold Overture to the tape. i had always liked the Lp and considered it a very good sounding pressing. the Tape stomped the Lp in every way......it was like a different recording.






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Tape Project Albums - general / Re: Latest shipping News
« on: October 09, 2008, 12:52:11 PM »
Doc,

you have set the bar very high for packaging and all the details. 'Waltz For Debbie' will be a defineing tape as it is so well known and everyone has multiple versions of the Lp and digital......it's a reference. thanks for putting all the effort into getting the art work optimal. i like your choice for the cover art.

i wish i had 'Waltz' right now to play on my 'finally here and amazing' Studer....but i will have to settle for hearing it on Hibernian's rig at RMAF.

best regards,

mikel 



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Reel to Reel Tape Machines / Re: update on Studer A-820
« on: October 08, 2008, 09:50:43 PM »
Wow Mike! My drool bucket runeth over.
I'd love to hear a little about Fred's shop and some of the things he told you about maintaining your 820.

Steve,

i will do my best to list some random thoughts.....i'm still a bit rummy from 1600 miles of driving and 8 hours of training in 38 hours....not to mention the euphoria of the musical performances i am hearing.

as i'm not even a little bit of a technical person my viewpoint on Fred's shop would have limited value....but i'll do my best. the shop is a large space and there are a number of Studer products in various states of repair. Fred seems to have all the neat tools (electronic and other) to do whatever and measure whatever on a Studer. one impression i got was after seeing all the specialized Studer tools he has is that anyone DIYing an A-820 will struggle to get it to work optimally. it would be like diagnosing a modern automoble without the proper interface to the CPU. you would not know where to go next.

i was very impressed that he has documented all the things he did on my A-820.....he showed me every part he replaced (dozens and dozens) and had notes on every step he took. even bits of wire and such he had taped to log sheets.

it is not a retail space or display space and has no pretenses as such. it is a work area.

Fred was very kind to me and spent lots of his time making sure i was capable of enjoying my A-820.  he started me out by explaining the basic landscape of the A-820 and some of the design features which make the A-820 such a dream to use.

-the A-820 stand does not look like anything special; but on closer inspection the mounting mechanism is over-built and has very solid 'indents' that work with swiss precision and allow you to rotate the A-820 to a number of angles....and then holds it there a solid as a rock. you can stand it almost on it's head and access the rear fuses comfortably while sitting down without kneeling and bending over. rotate it all the way over the other way and the card panel which is below the front is easy to see and read. then there is level, +7.5 degrees, +15 degrees, -7.5 degrees, -15 degrees (if you want to inspect the heads or do fine cleaning around them this is great....again, no bending over).
this sounds like a small thing but it sure made my A-820 education much easier.

-he explained the fuses and  power supply failure circuts. i actaully measured each failure circut so if i ever had a problem and he got on the phone with me i would already be familiar with it.

-we spent a couple of hours on the programing tree and methodology of changing the programing. it actually is very simple and logical but i would have never been able to figure it out myself in a million years. i did set-up on 'A' and 'B' set-ups with alignment tapes. switching between equalization and set-up presets is simple.

-he showed me all the very neat tricks (well...maybe not all of them) that the transport does.....and how to adjust it with the programing. it has the shuttle and cueing wheels and they work with great precision.....it is so easy to find the beginning of the music. there is a sensor which slows the tape down as the tape is rewound and makes it simple to then use the shuttle to find the beginning.

-the pack is so smooth and flat....better even than when you first recieve new 'Tape Project' tapes....even at rewind speeds it is almost perfect. there is a library rewind and it is easy to program the speed of the rewind.

-there is a 'secret' switch which keeps others from changing the programing....when engaged any programing reverts to prior settings when restarted.

-we spent a good amount of time on the card slots and how to reboot, the correct way to pull a card out and the wrong way.

-my A-820 came with a new looking complete service manual....400 to 500 pages in a large binder. we used it for a reference so i would be familiar with it. one of Fred's pet peaves on 'The Studer List' is when posters don't even check the manual prior to asking questions.

-he explained what he replaced and what was not 100% and why it was OK. a complete rebuild on an A-820 could be over $100k and even a semi-complete reconditioning would be around $35k. basically the parts costs are astronomical.

-we spent some time on cleaning and what is important. he also said that i would never need to demag......Studer had gone to great lengths to construct the A-820 with non-magnetic materials and demaging would likely only cause harm. he also thought the ATR-102 likely did not need much demag either. i have no opinion on this other than i don't mess much with my cartridges (i own a cartridge demager as well as an Annis Hand-i-mag).

i'm just touching the surface here.....but you get the idea.

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Reel to Reel Tape Machines / Re: update on Studer A-820
« on: October 08, 2008, 04:05:05 PM »
OK, it has arrived.

i drove down to Ukiah, California to pick up the A-820 from Fred Thal. i just returned this morning at 6am. i left the Seattle area at 2pm Monday, arrived at Fred's shop at 7:30am Tuesday morning.....Fred spent from then until 3:30pm 'just scratching the surface' on the A-820. what an amazing machine. really a work of art.

i am basically a clueless non-technical person who can set-up a turntable and do a reasonable room and system set-up; but up till now i have struggled understand RTR nuances. Fred was very patient with me and did a primer on the A-820. he went over the basics of use and changing the programing.....showed me how to trouble shoot things.....and raised my RTR confidence level a ton.

i had never seen my A-820 before and it is literally a work of audio art. i guess i was very lucky to have found one that was little used but still cared for. it had not been used since the late 90's. it is flawless cosmetically; the wood grain has no chips, even the leather bumper is perfect. Fred said that while working on it he noticed it had been particularly well assembled. my unit, serial number 1129, was built after the first 100 or so when they were working out the bugs, but still when Dr. Studer still owned the company and the best techs were doing the assembly.

how does it sound?

i've listened to 3 Tape Project tapes on it so far.....and let's say i don't expect my Rockport on Lps to be able to compete.....and possibly it won't be close. WOW and double WOW!! this is the level of performance which caused me to pursue RTR and my hat is off to 'The Tape Project' for these great sounding tapes.

the level of nuance and information is staggering. it combines delicacy and dynamic impact perfectly like real life. on musical peaks the stability of the musical flow is astonishng.

i'm running a set of XLR's directly into my XLR input on my darTZeel preamp.....and it's perfect.

i'm no RTR expert; but i've spent some time around them and own the fully reconditioned Ampex which is certainly considered a pretty damn nice machine. there is nothing i've ever seen like an A-820 in the way it works.....

i am very happy.

i'll post more later....time to listen now.







the Tim Paravincini EAR modified RS-1700 on the left, the A-820 in the middle and the ATR-102 on the right.

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Waltz for Debby / Re: Waltz for Debby @ Music Lovers, Berkeley
« on: October 02, 2008, 07:38:53 AM »
Paul,

thank you for the update on 'Waltz'........might 'the one who comes from Ireland' have 'Waltz' at RMAF for all our collective enjoyment?

best regards,

Mike

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Waltz for Debby / Re: Waltz for Debby @ Music Lovers, Berkeley
« on: October 01, 2008, 02:24:03 PM »
Hibernian; 'Waltz for Debbie' is one tape i've been really been looking forward to hearing....thanks for the feedback on it. i'm stoked to get it here. i wonder how soon the mailings will begin for Charter Subscribers?

my 45rpm Lp reissue of 'waltz' is waiting to go head to head with the 15ips....

i also have an EAR modified Technics......how does the EAR Technics RS-1520 do compared to the modified Studer A-80? PM me with the answer if you like.

thanks,

Mike

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Tape Project Machines / Re: Bottlehead vs Aria (on Studer A820/2CH)
« on: June 27, 2008, 09:57:33 PM »
i have also considered the Aria for my A-820 but need -10db and Mike Spitz told Fred Thal that he does not recommend the Aria be modified to -10db. maybe i need a preamp that can handle +4db at some point.

i would also be curious about this comparison.

last week i had a chance to purchase a Tim deParavincini modified Technics (one of the 1500 family) which is now in route to me from the U.K.

i'm trying to get my wife to still allow me to have my stock RS-1500 fully modded by Doc with the Bottlehead repro.....i sorta blew my budget with the dPv deck. i really want to compare the Bottlehead to the dPv if i can......and then both to the A-820 with some custom output electronics Fred Thal is installing.

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Reel to Reel Tape Machines / Re: Run-A-Muck Chuck AKA CEVED
« on: May 31, 2008, 07:57:15 AM »
i have an ATR-102 and a Studer A-820; both of which i explored having the Aria installed on.

i only have heard great things about the Aria; but it outputs +4db pro level balanced output and not -10db you can input into a normal consumer preamp. during discussions between Mike Spitz and Fred Thal it was recommended not to try to knock the output down to -10db. so i passed on the Aria.

just make sure that either your system can handle a balanced +4db output or you have a plan to change it to -10db without losing the beauty of the Aria.

i would be very interested in how you deal with this as it could change how i am figuring this out.

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General Discussion / Re: Disscusions
« on: May 01, 2008, 09:25:04 PM »
I guess the fire's out.  Didn't want the day to pass without a single post on the forum.  Nothing to add - just wondering how much better "Way Out West", now spinning on my $149 Oppo DVD-970HD, would sound on a kilobuck CD player, or. better yet, on a TP mastered tape on a TP upgraded RS1500.  Sounds pretty good on the Oppo, though.  Can't hide great music completely no matter what your gear is.

Jim Grant

'Way Out West' on the AP SACD played on the EMM Labs SE combo is excellent. The AP 33rpm reissue is a good deal better in every way. the AP 45RPM Lp is on another level entirely as is the 45rpm Lp test pressing. i agree Steve that the bass on this recording is particularly articulate and this recording is overall an excellent recording with outstanding clarity and a low noise floor. a great demo disc for sure in any format.

i would love to have the opportunity to play a TP version and compare.

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General Discussion / Re: Disscusions
« on: April 29, 2008, 09:53:18 PM »
Well since we are stirring the pot.

What I want to say is that if someone's standard RS1500, or any other standard R2R machine for that reason, outperforms his CD playback, there is a much higher urgency to seriously upgrade ones CD playback. All the absolute fantastic recordings you are missing that are available on CD. After that there is always time to start cleaning up your R2R playback.

Arian.



Arian,

i must disagree with you assuming i read your comment correctly. i think you are saying that any stock RTR deck has lower overall performance than good CD playback. Format comparisons and a desire to discover exactly how good RTR performance can get is what pulled me into RTR.

I have a stock RS-1500 and i would say on 15ips tapes i have it does most musical things similar but different than my SOTA EMM Labs CDSD SE and DAC6 SE. the RS-1500 is more 'continuous' and 'life-like'......the EMM combo has more dynamics and does space better.

I also have a stock ATR-102 which is clearly better than the EMM Labs combo when playing those same 15ips tapes. OTOH neither RTR is in the league of vinyl in my system.......yet. once i get into the repro electronics we will see......

there is simply lots more data on a good 15ips tape than any consumer digital format. even though the digital does many things well it misses the 'whole picture' to some degree. it's those damn gaps!

just trying to do my part to stir it up a bit.

Mike

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