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Events / Re: Chicago 2013 Axpona Show
« on: February 11, 2013, 12:42:18 PM »
Hi Doc:

Been a little out of the loop the past few months-my day job has been keeping me busy (which I guess is good!) Just now heard about the Axpona show in March.

Not sure what my schedule is yet for early March, but look forward to attending.

FWI: I have a Nagra T-Audio in our shop at the moment, which I would be happy to bring along if you are planning to do any demos at the show. Ping me off-list if you are interested.

Based on the current exhibitor lineup, it looks like an interesting show!

--S

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General Discussion / Re: Anyone have this?
« on: April 23, 2011, 01:36:37 AM »
If you need a more detailed manual for the 100, I think I may have one. It's been quite some time since I've worked on one though, so I will have to dig a bit.

--Scott

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Reel to Reel Tape Machines / Re: Denon Reel
« on: March 14, 2009, 01:00:22 PM »
Any chance you could post a picture of this deck? I haven't seen this model before.

Scott Smith


Hey all,

I'm new to this forum, and I have a Denon DH-510 reel machine. It's 1/2 track with 7 1/2 and 15 IPS speeds. Does anyone know much about this deck? Quality, repair parts, tweaks, etc.?

It works well, and I have recorded a few LP's at the 7 1/2 speed. But due to the cost of blank tape, I've not used the 15 IPS speed yet. Just curious what everyone thinks. Thanks!

Jaws

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General Discussion / Re: Any one have a good tape head amp schematic
« on: December 10, 2008, 12:19:26 PM »
So, I'm curious-what was the favored configuration for the shunt regulators?

--Scott


Incidentally, we did build a test box with stereo cathode followers and six different shunt regulator circuits, including Zeners and gas regulator tubes, in order to chose what configuration to use in the Bottlehead products.

A couple points of information about the designs: In addition to lower distortion at large signal magnitudes (admittedly, not that significant for these tiny signals) a good current source plate load provides some 50dB of power supply noise rejection, so I continue to prefer that configuration. We use old-technology low efficiency red LEDs because their dynamic resistance is especially low, and they are very quiet.

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Raw Tape / Re: Paper leader anyone?
« on: October 22, 2008, 10:15:44 AM »
Hi Steve,

Thanks much. Would be interesting to know what you come up with...

Regarding printing on leader tapes: The only leader tape I ever saw with a manufacturer's imprint was from Audiotape, although I think some of the Sony and Maxell tapes from the seventies could of had them as well. I also have a few older reels of Telefunken and BASF tape-I'll look at them when I have a moment.

 

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Tape Tech / Re: Looking for Nagra 4.2 or IV-S schematic or service manual
« on: October 21, 2008, 06:36:37 PM »
Thats a big manual!

Probably best to try and find one on eBay, as even a good PDF will be difficult to read. All of the schematics are on fold-outs, and are a bitch to make good copies of.

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Tape Project Albums - general / Re: Need some help - please!
« on: October 05, 2008, 04:59:33 PM »
Hi Steve,

I think the head wear pattern problems caused by different stock formulations is one that hasn't received the attention it deserves. I have to admit it took me a while to figure it out as well. It really became apparent, though, when working with magnetic film, which has a base thickness that varies between 3 and 5.5 mils thick, and a very different head wrap depending on the base thickness and base type (with the triacetate base being stiffer than polyester).

John French and I spent quite a bit of time trying to sort this out around 10 years ago, and the only solution we could come up with was to have two sets of headblocks, one for 5 mil acetate base film, and a second for 3 mil polyester. It cost a 'friggin fortune! (And then there was 5 mil polyester as well, just to complicate matters further).

As good as 35mm full coat magnetic film could be, I have to admit that I'm more than happy to not have to deal with it much any longer (except for archival work). On the other hand, I recall hearing some 6 track score masters for various pictures over the years that would just blow away most multi-track tapes. Part of this had to to with the thickness of the oxide, and part of was due to the track width, which is wider than that of a 24 track tape. I know more than a couple of scoring mixers who really lamented the move away from film. (Of course, many of the recordings that Bob Fine and Bob Eberenz did for the Mercury and Everest labels were recorded in 3 track 35mm, which, with an equivalent track width of 200 mils, could (at least theoretically) produce a recording that would only be equaled by at least 1/2" 2 track tape).

--Scott


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Raw Tape / Re: Paper leader anyone?
« on: October 05, 2008, 04:34:28 PM »
Hi Steve,

It would indeed be interesting to know the PH, if you can do a sample. In any event, I may be interested for some other projects. BTW, I have in fact seen quite a few cases where the back-coating delaminated and stuck to the oxide (mostly on Ampex tape).

--Scott 

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Suggestion Box / Re: How the West was Won
« on: August 30, 2008, 01:46:30 PM »
I actually had the opportunity to hear (and view) the full Todd-AO 7 track version of "How the West Was Won" in John Harvey's living room in Dayton, Ohio a few years back.

While the sound track suffered from many of the ill's of analog, many of the music sections were a true revelation. Most of them were recorded with a basic 5 or 6 channel mike setup, and very little processing.

I always wondered what the multi-channel masters must have sounded like. Unfortunately, I think they have been lost to time and rot after the demise and subsequent sale of Todd-AO to the Pacific Theater group, which has done little to preserve what they have.

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Raw Tape / Re: Paper leader anyone?
« on: August 30, 2008, 01:30:17 PM »
The whole leader issue is one that I have struggled with over the years. In the midwest, we used to encounter some real problems with the static issue during the winter months, even in studios with humidity control.

When I ran a large facility downtown, we had in-duct humidifiers on all the air handlers, and could get the RH up to 30% in the dead of winter, but then had condensation on all the windows!

My only complaint about paper leader is that, to the best of my knowledge, none of it is acid-free. We have had archival tapes come through our facility where the paper leader has turned brown as a result, which with acetate based tapes is never a good thing. In addition, I have had problems with the splicing tape not adhering well.

So, for the time being, I have been sticking with plastic leader for any tapes that are headed for an archive, but still prefer paper for the static control.

I had approached the engineers at 3M once about making a back-coated style leader tape to help with static control, but it never went anywhere.


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Tape Project Albums - general / Re: Need some help - please!
« on: August 30, 2008, 01:14:05 PM »
Welcome to the wonderful world of analog tape!

In all of these conversations, it would be most helpful to have some information about the test tapes being used. There are a least two distinct flavors of CCIR EQ that have been used over the years, so I would expect to see some variations depending on the calibration tapes. In this realm, I have generally found the MRL and AGFA/BASF tapes to be the most consistent, even if they don't match exactly in either azimuth or frequency response. I am making the assumption that a good quality external voltmeter is being used for the reproduce alignment as well. Do not trust the meters on the machine to have flat response! (Although some are fairly decent)

I have compared various test tapes from MRL, BASF, STL, Norton and Ampex from over the years, and have seen significant variations between all of them. Also, as Paul points out, many decks (even those with constant tension), will exhibit significant variations in the actual dynamic "skew" of the tape as it passes across the heads. I remember tearing my hair out over this issue early in my career when working with Ampex 351 and 440 decks (as well as the Scully 280's). You could align the reproduce perfectly on a machine with one tape formulation, but the minute you changed to a different stock, the dynamic skew (and hence the HF response) would change. It doesn't matter if the tape is the same thickness-it has to do with factors related to the oxide and back-coating friction, the actual tape width (with Ampex tapes being slit slightly narrower than 3M, AGFA/BASF, Maxell and others), as well as the base formulation. On many decks (even those with constant tension), you can actually measure the difference in where the tape rides through the head stack and pinch roller. In decks without constant tension control, you could see very significant differences. All of these factors will have a profound effect on the HF response and inter-channel phase relationship of the reproducer.

It is because of these factors that at one point our studio spent a huge sum of money to have Jay McKnight of MRL make a run of tapes on something like 4-5 different stocks, so that we could use the same oxide for the repro alignment that was being used as raw stock for recording.

Although most Studer machines and the Ampex ATR's (as well as the 3M series 79 and Technics RS-1500 series) generally have fewer problems in this regard, I have still encountered issues relating to the difference in dynamic skewing on all of these machines (I use a modified RS-1520 in my home system, mainly because I don't have room in the rack for a larger deck. I still have to tweak the PB azimuth for different oxide formulations, though).

A major factor to keep in mind here is that different tape formulations will establish different head wear patterns as well, so once you run in a headblock with one oxide, and then change it, you will frequently encounter issues with spacing loss across the heads due to the fact that the tape is not contacting the head curvature in the same manner. To make matters worse, if the head tilt or rotation was wrong when the heads were first aligned, you now have an asymmetrical wear pattern to contend with. (We used to encounter this a lot when switching between Ampex formulations and others, due to the slightly stiffer base formulation used by Ampex in the seventies and eighties). If you have a different base material (acetate or polyester), the issue is even more profound.

In addition, I have seen variations in the handling of the tape on machines where the pinch roller formulation has been changed, which is often overlooked as a factor. (Even the Otari MTR-90 machines will exhibit differences in tracking with different rollers).

So, what is novice R-T-R fan supposed to do in the face of all this? The best suggestion I can make is to find somebody in your area that has experience in R-T-R machine alignment. The second would me to make an investment in a MRL IEC curve calibration tape (catalog #21J203 is the one you need). If you are spending $2500+ for a music library, spending $70.00 for a calibration tape well worth it.

For those who are somewhat technically inclined, a good quality (preferably analog) VTVM is also a good investment. You can pick up a working Hewlett-Packard voltmeter on eBay for under $100. The calibration on it will run you maybe $100 to $175. Still a good investment. A basic 'scope is also a must for head alignment. Again, a decent Tektronix or B&K 'scope can be had for anywhere from $150 to $400, depending on condition (I just picked up a good quality 4 channel Tek scope for $175). If you want something that looks cool as well, and have the $$ to spend, you could opt a McIntosh MI-2 or MI-3 Maximum Performance Indicator instead. It will allow you to make the proper phase alignment, and is fun to watch in the dark!

However, if all this is just Greek to you, start checking around your area for a good tech. Expect to pay him (or her) anywhere from $75.00 to $120.00 per hour for their time, depending on their level of expertise, and the equipment they have available.

Perhaps a section could be devoted to what resources are available in various areas of the country in this regard. Also, remember that not all techs will have the experience (and tooling) to work on all machines.

Apologies for the long post...


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Tape Tech / Re: Head Marker Ink?
« on: August 09, 2008, 07:50:26 PM »
Back in the day, I used to use machinist's bluing ink, but now I mostly just use a white china marker. It will show the wear pattern quickly, and can be easily cleaned off with any standard head cleaner. However, it is no substitute for a proper head squaring gauge.

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Reel to Reel Tape Machines / Re: Otari Upgrades
« on: August 09, 2008, 07:34:12 PM »
The easy answer, I'm afraid, is; don't bother. By the time you do any significant upgrades, the money and effort would be better spent for obtaining a better deck.

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Reel to Reel Tape Machines / Re: Revox PR 99 matchbox XLR to RCA
« on: August 09, 2008, 07:31:20 PM »
I would not use the monitor out from the PR-99, as it goes through additional circuitry.

An easy approach, at least for the deck output, is to use a simple "T" pad, balanced to unbalanced. This will work fine of you have a short run from your deck to the preamp. On the other hand, if you want to maintain a "pure" approach, going with the Jensen transformer or a high quality active balanced in to unbalanced out converter would be the way to go.

Thanks, I was wondering about using the monitior out to drive my preamp, this sounds like a good idea.
I have about 50' of Monster M1000 interconnect I think it's M1000. This cable is a twisted pair with a sheild and earth lead. Friends and I bought a spool of Monster speaker wire, Yes the garden hose stuff at a surplus sale.
The speaker cable was the same stuff AA was selling for some crazy price like $1k for a 15' pair. I think the spool was $200 at the time. along with it came 2 or 3 hundred feet of this interconnect, We are all using this for interconnects.
Im thinking this might be fine for the runs to the preamp, about 5 feet.
I read that article, then looked at the block diagram for the PR99 it does seem like the best idea to just go monitor out. Im running a tube preamp so the input impedance is 50k I think.

bob



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Tape Project Albums - general / Re: TP-02, 03, 05 and 08
« on: August 09, 2008, 07:22:46 PM »
I just wish I had a little 2 track/15ips playback machine that I could load a 7" reel with just 2 or 3 cuts to send to these guys. Wow, maybe I've finally found a reason to buy that Nagra 4s that I've always lusted after.

Well, and now you can. Sadly, you can pick them up for a few hundred dollars on eBay. Stefan must be rolling in his grave...

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