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Tape Tech / Re: Problems with sound-on-sound record

« on: September 26, 2009, 11:46:56 AM »

Ok, thanks !!!  i'll try to investigate it.
i'll post about the results.

i need to make this cool recorder work as it should...

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Tape Tech / Re: Problems with sound-on-sound record

« on: September 26, 2009, 02:02:18 AM »

hi Steve

i tried it today again.
it seems to be not operating properly...it doesnt copy take 1 from left to the right channel.

recorder doesnt copy data from channel 1 to channel 2.
interesting thing is that it can copy data from channel 2 to channel 1 - no problem with this.


now i have to understand what is the reason and how to fix it.

i guess i will need schematics

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Tape Tech / Re: Problems with sound-on-sound record

« on: September 25, 2009, 02:38:40 PM »

steve , thanks for being kind and explaining !!! when i'll be a star, i will buy two 3M 24 track machines
and ask you to inspect them, for money of course! :)

well tomorrow i will try it all again, and post here!

Please go back and re-read my first comment about this process being analogous to dubbing back and forth between 2 mono recorders.

i read it attentively..

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Tape Tech / Re: Problems with sound-on-sound record

« on: September 25, 2009, 02:15:41 PM »

It should be take 1+2 in the right channel to use your terminology. Perhaps there is a left channel playback level knob you are forgetting to turn up if you are only getting live sound to the right channel.
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no, i checked both channels after 1>2 step (specially used switch to check) . first take was in left channel alone,  second take was in right channel also alone.

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Tape Tech / Re: Problems with sound-on-sound record

« on: September 25, 2009, 02:11:22 PM »

thanks again..

you see problem starts when i can not copy first recorded take from channel 1 to channel 2.
it only records my second take to 2nd channel. and first take still sits on the first channel...

 but it supposed to copy 1st take to second channel
and record 2nd track to second channel simulteneously right?


why is that so?

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Tape Tech / Re: Problems with sound-on-sound record

« on: September 25, 2009, 01:31:00 PM »

and second thing... even if it worked properly, i dont understand the sence
in sound on sound record if it has such big sound delay, i can not play instruments properly when i
hear myself with delay.

as i understood this sound delay is normal feature and supposed to be on my recorder?

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Tape Tech / Re: Problems with sound-on-sound record

« on: September 25, 2009, 01:23:44 PM »

Steve first of all thank you very much for your time and willing to help.

i actually understand that this is a "ping pong" recording.
but problem is, if its ping pong everything should be recorded either left or right channel.

but in my case , when i do "add 1>2" step, it leaves 1 channel data on 1st channel and doesnt copy it to 2nd channel

so this 2nd record take goes to 2nd channel alone.

as result after "add 1>2" step i have 1 record take in the left channel and 2nd record take in the right channel. it shouldnt be so i think.


more than that when i do "add 2>1" step it erases 1st record take!!!

so after this i have onle 2nd and 3rd record takes...
1st one is erased

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Tape Tech / Re: Problems with sound-on-sound record

« on: September 25, 2009, 09:05:55 AM »

and second question
my recorder has 2 modes:

1)Input mode - i can use recorder as preamplifier and cant hear sounds of tape.


2)Tape mode - i can hear sounds of tape.
so i can record myself only in this mode.
but when i push record button, and start recording for example guitar,
i can hear guitar with big delay. its impossible to play instrument hearing myself with such delay...
why is it so? is it how it is supposed to be?

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Tape Tech / Problems with sound-on-sound record

« on: September 25, 2009, 07:22:39 AM »

hi
i have ampex f44.

i want to make sound on sound records.
sticker on the case cover says: "To record sound on sound, first use mono 1 position,
then add 1>2 position, then add 2>1 position, etc"

well i did exactly as it says.

for first record take - i used mono 1 position - everything is ok

for second record take - i used 1>2 position - and...1 channel still has first record take
at the same time 2nd channel has second record take.

for 3rd record take i used 2>1 position and it simply erases 1st channel and my first record take...

so after this i only have record takes #2 and #3.... but #1 is erased...

why is it so?

am i doing something wrong or this function doesnt work on my F44?

if function doesnt work, what may be the reasons and how can i fix it?

thanks